Brain Power with Dr. Eko

Beyond Autism diagnosis: A child’s journey from angry outbursts to calm using Integrative Medicine, with Chi Boakye

• Dr. Hokehe Eko

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In this conversation, Dr. Hokehe Eko is joined by Chi Boakye to discuss a powerful journey beyond an autism diagnosis. The discussion explores how a child once struggling with frequent anger, emotional dysregulation, and intense outbursts experienced significant behavioral and emotional improvement through an integrative medicine approach.

Together, they examine how factors such as gut health, nutrition, metabolic imbalance, inflammation, and environmental exposures can influence brain function and behavior in children with autism. The session highlights how looking beyond the diagnosis and addressing underlying biological contributors can support calmer behavior, improved regulation, and stronger parent–child connection.

The discussion provides a deeper understanding of how integrative pediatric care can complement behavioral therapies by targeting root physiological factors that affect neurological function and emotional stability.

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SPEAKER_01

Well, good morning. Happy Saturday and happy Thanksgiving to everyone watching. So, my name is Dr. Hoke Echo, and I have an amazing guest with me today, Miss Chi Waki, who's actually my cousin. Um, since Thanksgiving is all of our family, we decided we would come on together and share an amazing story that she

Welcome And Family Connection

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has about her child who has autism. And so I'm gonna let her introduce herself. Chi, welcome to the show. And please tell our listeners all about you, okay?

SPEAKER_00

Hello everybody, I'm so happy to be here, and uh oh yeah, lovely to be with my cousin, whom I haven't seen in a while and who lives so far away. But um, yeah, it's lovely that technology allows us to do this. So, my name is Chi Boachi, and um I'm what you call an alternative educational consultant. And so I got into this because um when my son was born 22 years ago, he was born with cerebral palsy, and then five years later he was diagnosed with autism. And even before he was diagnosed, I knew that there was something really wrong. And so before he before I had my son, I was a lawyer, but I retrained to become a Montessori teacher because I wanted to find a way to help him navigate his environment because Montessori is really good with um training the senses, and um, over the course of me, you know, owning my own nursery and having children from all walks of life, I developed my own method, and that method basically helped me to help my son for so many years. Uh, it got there was a stage where my son was terribly violent when he was around the age of 17, and for years we we couldn't understand what those triggers were. But now, uh, praise God, he came off all his meds, he came off the the writ, you know, the um Risperidone and the meds for not being able to sleep, and he's completely a different child. But even before then, I had been doing workshops for parents in in the community to help them understand how to create environments, holistic environments for their children, you know, environments where they were taking the right types of food, where they were making the right types of movements. And as a result, um, I have a lot of knowledge about helping children, neurodivergent children, and actually helping all children, um, because I've been doing this for so many years. So, in a nutshell, that's me. Yay!

SPEAKER_01

Oh, you've said so many things, we can go in so many directions. So, let's see, where should we start? So, you talked about, I like the fact that you talked about the workshops. We're gonna get back to your precious son, but the workshops to help parents create holistic environments. So, tell tell us more about that. What does that really mean, and how can parents listening to you set up or at least start to think about how they can set up holistic environments for their children?

SPEAKER_00

Well, interestingly, um Montessori actually helps you, gives you the knowledge to train children's senses. So if you think about the five senses, but there are actually three more senses that most people are not aware of: the sense to do with balance, the sense to do with um spatial, you know, how how far at you know how the space around you, but

Building Holistic Home Environments

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also what's called the interoceptive sense. And we do we only discovered my son's triggers as to why he was so violent, because during the lockdown, um, someone happened to mention whether we had we whether he knew about the eighth sense called the inter interoceptive sense, and this is the sense that tells you whether you're full or whether you're you're um hungry, whether you're cold, or whether you know you're hot. And it just triggered something within me. I realized my son lacks the interoceptive sense, even though I'd been busy training other children's senses all this time, it hadn't occurred to me that he didn't have this sense until it was mentioned to me. Now, let me explain to you because as a result of him not had not being able, not having he didn't realize it was gluten intolerance, which we only found out during the lockdown. So all that time we'd been you know, been going out, we eat barley, we eat flour, we eat anything, and and all those times he would lash out in absolute anger and rage. We wouldn't understand why he was doing that, but it was because he was feeling pain but wasn't able to express to us that he was feeling pain. So now what do I do? Because it's not so much that he can understand what he should, you know, when when he feels um pain because of gluten, but I now make sure that everything that goes into him goes out. So now he eats fiber, now he um, I mean, what I'm trying to explain to you is that I would never have understood how much nutrition affects behaviors of children to the point where they can absolutely lash out if it hadn't been for my son. So um, of course, we he doesn't eat any gluten, we stripped all his food of gluten. And it's interesting because one of the things I had mentioned to you was that I've realized that a lot of the foods that he loves are foods that were grown up, grown indigenously in Africa. So rather than loving things like wheat, he loves things like cassava, you know, and we use a lot of cassava flour for many different things, right? But um also another aspect of um the method that I use to help kids is the one to do with movement. I help to train children's movement, and that's also very important, right? And it's not necessarily um just asking a child to do exercise, but it's it's helping a child to be coordinated in the way they do the exercise. Right. I've realized many people don't realize that even somebody like the Olympic swimmer Phelps, he managed his ADHD with swimming. And it wasn't it's not so much the the the the the you know number of times he swims, it's the way he moves, the movements. So, for instance, now let me give you a very simple example. If I were to, if I were thinking about training a child on the trampoline, I wouldn't just say to them, go on the trampoline and jump. I would say, I'm going to make a sound, a repetitive sound. I want you to jump to that sound. Okay, and once you get a child to do something that they wouldn't ordinarily do, the brain creates new pathways. It creates a way for the brain to be nourished, and it really makes a difference in the way a child then goes on to flourish because they're moving in a way that they may may not ordinarily have moved. And that really helped my son growing up, just doing certain activities that would force him to concentrate and force him to take certain types of action.

SPEAKER_01

I like that. So it sounds like instead of parents, like it sounds like we need to be more intentional and more hands-on with the kids, right? Instead of just saying go play, it needs to be an intentional play. And of course, there's so much research that shows play-based learning is the best, right? Because you're not just teaching them to move, you're also teaching them to move in a balanced way, right? Because now they're moving to a beat.

SPEAKER_00

100%. 100%. I mean, the way, the way um, because uh my method is based, is based from Montessori's method. I don't know whether you've heard about Montessori, but she's she was an absolute genius. I mean, I have actually seen children as young as two learn how to write and read at the same time. Let me explain to you what I mean. So in a Montessori classroom, you get the child to use their fingers

Interoception And Hidden Pain Triggers

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to trace, for instance, let's say S. You get them to trace it. Of course, they don't know what they're tracing because they're quite young, but you also get them to say the sound. So now you've got the touch, now you've got the sound, and you've also got them speaking. But then you get you you you make sure that S is in a particular colour so that they see that colour and they they're tracing it. And by the time you start putting various letters together, you can actually get a child without even realizing it, and before you you know, you get them to say it fast, sat. You know, it's profound, but it also is a is a great way for children to really embed um the knowledge that is being taught to them. It also has helped me with people who have dys dyslexia because a lot of them complain about the words jumping off the sheet. Um, and one when you get a child to learn how to write that way, it's far more effective than if they had just been using workbooks.

SPEAKER_01

That makes sense because the brain is making those new connections between the sound and the finger tracing.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, and the movements as well.

SPEAKER_01

Wow. So that's how you can teach kids who are neurodivergent and may not be verbal, right? So you also use that method with even kids that are non-verbal.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, it was what I've done with non-verbal children is that I actually had a little boy who was non-verbal, but interestingly, nonverbal children are still interested in music as long as they can hear. And even with a child who is non-verbal, they can usually almost always hum. So you can actually use the sound. I mean, the best one that they use in the Monsori classroom are bells, and then you try to get the child to imitate the bells. So, you know, you've you and then you also can show the child that they're the ones in charge of their vocal cords. So you say, you know, you you ask them to hum loudly, for instance, hum softly, and after a while the child begins to realize they're in charge because many neurochip neurodivergent children, it's the senses that are not working well, so they're not aware of you know why things are not working the way they should. But then when you show them that they're the ones who are capable of taking you know taking their power back, it actually works. And so I've seen a little boy have amazing musical ability, even though he's not very good at speaking. In terms of singing, you know, it's quite remarkable to see.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I I always tell all the parents I see and take care of in my practice that it's so important for us to become detectives of our children, right? And to just see what their strengths are, because every child has a strength. Like your example with the little boy who's non-verbal, but his strength lies in music. And can you imagine if we didn't note that, then that would be an untaxed skill that he has that can bless the world, right?

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely, true.

SPEAKER_01

Wow, that's thank you for sharing that. And so I I wanted to go. Um, can you tell us a little more about your journey with your son? Like, I just said he used to be full of rage. Like, how did you handle that? How were you using the methods that you teach other parents? How are you using that to help him?

SPEAKER_00

To be honest, there was a time when it was just so challenging. We actually thought we'd have to put him in an institution. I mean, we would even take footage of of him, not realizing, of course, that he was in so much pain. We take it to the doctors and they wouldn't, they wouldn't understand, you know, they wouldn't understand. He we was diagnosed at the time with irrational

Intentional Movement That Rewires The Brain

SPEAKER_00

rage syndrome, which we found really frustrating because of course we knew he had a lot of rage, but to add syndrome at the end to us was a bit like for crying out loud, you know, we need something more than this. Right, you know, and you know, it it would it it was a while before you know we we we could we could even we weren't able to cope, it was so difficult. But I think when I think about it now, I I would say that you know, I because afterwards I did a lot of research, and what I I came up I came across was that so many black children who are autistic suffer from gluten intolerance. And it's interesting to me that nobody had nobody even just thought perhaps we should look at his physiology and see what was going on inside. There seems to be more of a of a of a leaning towards wanting to give him medication, which of course at the time we were grateful for, but now we realize he he he really didn't need that. It's just for someone to understand, you know, as a result, I have I have um moved towards black child parenting, which I never thought I never thought I was going to do. Because since doing so much research, since my son, you know, getting so much better, I've really realized that there are just so many um so many triggers in the in in in this society that really I would say tend to affect black children. Oh yes, you know, tend to affect tend to affect black children far more than they affect white children. So let me give you an example. My my my cousin, he's uh he's an architect in the States. Oh, that's where you are actually. And uh I remember him telling me that his son had been told, he had been told, my my cousin had been told that he needed to they needed to give my his son certain drugs to manage his movements. Apparently he was what they considered to be disruptive. But my cousin told me that if they had been in Nigeria, they wouldn't they wouldn't have given him drugs because a child back home, it's not difficult to find something for him to do, you know. I mean, you know, so I I I I you know I I do feel that a lot of the a lot of how we are isn't understood. Black children have a lot of energy, that is why we're the best of our nerves, that's why we're the best, we're we're really good at what, you know, in terms of um athletics and all that kind of stuff. But when you train the movement, it really, you know, it really does wonders for a child. So I I I went and got because um I was now looking to figure out how best to help children with training their movement. I went and got a certificate for boxing. My son boxed for quite a while, and you know, people might say, Oh, but would that not make him more violent? No, on the contrary, he had no clue. You know, he he couldn't, you know, sort of link the two as the boxing is equal to violence, and it really helped him. It's just that unfortunately, the the one that he was going to stopped. He also did capoeira, which is a kind of Brazilian dance that he loved and was good at. Even today, he does yoga in the place that he goes to, and they tell me that he's so good at it. But if you notice, all the kind of exercises I'm talking about are those ones that um you need technique, you need technique, they need it's almost like they they need to be focused on the way they move for it to make for it to make a difference, right? So that that that could mean I I even went and and enrolled as a Zumba instructor. Can you believe it? Just so I can understand how Zumba worked, even though I I cannot stand Zumba and I'm a bad dancer. But now, as part of the pro the program that I'm going to be starting for children, I I'm I'm I've created what's called African Dance Rhythm and Movement, a dramo. That's A D-R-A-M-O, African Dance, Rhythm and Movement. And

Montessori Tools For Learning Differences

SPEAKER_00

it's interesting because when I first started, I actually asked a friend to help me to decide on the kind of movements, and we decided on movements that you see in Africa. Like, you know, when they're pounding with a pestle, you know, we said we're going to include movements like that, or like when you're sweeping with a brush, you have to bend down, use the brush in a particular, you know, the brush that you find only in Africa. Movements like that, you know, are going to be included in the African dance rhythm and and and um movement, and we'll be using drums, the jamba drums, particularly. Okay. So I you know, I'm I'm quite excited at the at you know where I'm I'm sort of heading, because I think in the past I didn't really feel um, I didn't feel as motivated to go down this route as I do now. Since my son, you know, is fine now. I feel I have a lot more time. I feel like I can really think about it. So yeah, exciting times ahead.

SPEAKER_01

It's so cool. I love I love the idea of incorporating the dance and the sweeping movements. Who would have thought that going this to help a child learn to coordinate their senses? Oh my goodness. So tell me, you you mentioned the intrusive um sense, right? So how can you use that to train a child? Like maybe a parent listening and their child like seems to just eat without stopping, like they're always they always seem hungry.

SPEAKER_00

Wow.

SPEAKER_01

Have you is that is there a way that we can train the children to not always want to put something in their mouth?

SPEAKER_00

That's that's a tough one. That's a tough one. I mean, in that kind of situation, I suppose you have to go with what we as adults would do, which is basically we would probably decide there only gonna be certain types of food in the house. You have to hide the food. Uh, or you could possibly have like a routine. So, you know, every every time you know he knows where he knows when he's gonna eat. Like, even for my my son, I he he he needs prompts a lot, so he won't actually get out of bed unless I come to tell him to get out of bed because he just doesn't know, he he has no sense of time. So, what I've decided to do is to buy an alarm clock, and when the alarm goes, I'm going to try and train him to get up at that time to go to the bathroom. So it could be that with a child who who eats a lot, I think it might be good as well to eat to try to get that child to join you in in cooking the food. I don't know how how it might be difficult for that child. I don't know whether.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I mean, you can start anywhere, right? It's as little as put some fruits in the water for me so that you can now drink flavored water versus adding a chemical uh flavor into the water. I mean, you just I always tell parents, just start where you are, where your child can start. Start there. Yes, you see amazed though, because if we start to see our kids from the lens of no limits, there's things that they can do that we don't think they can, right? And unless we try, we'll never know. So absolutely.

SPEAKER_00

I I would also say because often I think maybe when when children don't have as much to do, sometimes they're bored, and um, you know, from from what I've I've you know, I remember there was a boy that I had in the in the when I had a Montessori nursery, he would always I actually had him because no one nowhere else would have him. And apparently he used to if you know what it means to like fart a

From Rage To Answers Without Blame

SPEAKER_00

lot. And you know, they couldn't figure out why. And I I actually went I actually went to the uh to his mum's house. I actually made a visit. And it turns out that this little boy he he he he craved fizzy water or fizzy drinks and had to make a decision as to whether she wanted to help her son or not. Because I I I do feel that many parents, as much as they know maybe even sometimes what to do, sometimes they're scared of their children. This this lady definitely was scared of her son. Sometimes they feel like they just don't have the heart to say no. But you have to think in how many years' time this child that you know you're you're not helping is going to be in a far worse situation than than than they are. So it is about thinking, like in this situation, to do with a boy who eats a lot, it probably will affect everybody else in the family, but they will have to be on a strict you know, hiding or or or keeping that boy on a particular routine, and and while he's eating, he's only allowed to eat certain things. And if he makes a fuss, because I do know what it's like when she makes a fuss. I mean, my son is very, very violent at some point. It can be very scary. But the truth is, if you start to be very tired, as long as you know what the issues are, as long as I as long as this him wanted this little boy wanting to eat more is not something to do with maybe an illness, then you do have to um you either distract him or you get him to join you in doing some kind of work that may even burn the amount of calories that he's eating. You know, there's so many things you could do. Um that you know, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so I like that because and and I think to go back to the parents who may be scared of their kids. I have seen that in person. I have seen kids hitting and fighting parents and right in front of me in my in my office, and I'm like, wow, yeah, just it's just for parents to know that it's nothing they shouldn't be ashamed of it, but ask for help because it should be as as something as simple as we need to change what he's eating, and the gut and the brain are connected, right? And it's the brain that controls behavior. So if things are if what the child is eating, because gluten inflames the gut, right? And anything that inflames your gut or your tummy is going to inflame your brain. It's only a matter of time. I mean, they're connected. There's research that shows the brain and the gut are directly connected. So that's why you can see a correlation between what a child is eating and the behavior, and even the way they sleep, and if they're picky or not, and if they're constipated or not, all those things are connected. So, so thank you for highlighting the fact that it how important what we put in our mouth is because it can literally make or break you, and our children are being put on medications, and we are not addressing what's really going on, and every medication has a side effect. And I'm not against medicine, I mean, I'm a physician, I prescribe medicine, but before I get to the medicine, the first question is what are we eating and what do we need to change? Because, yes, like you said, your child, your son had been eating that for years and years, right? Not we couldn't see the correlation, and and but then at some point the body builds up so like the but the insults to the body is so high that you start to see the symptoms like rage or or or not sleeping, things like that. And the child unfortunately can't tell you what's going on. So thank you so much for highlighting that. And I know before we came on, you said you were gonna ask me a question.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, yes, because uh, I just think I was just um I was just yeah, thanking God for the fact that you you know we're in the same family and you're doing something that has helped me because you're the one that told me about magnesium. Do you remember all those years ago?

SPEAKER_01

I just brought up my own issues, so I'll tell you how to policy quickly.

SPEAKER_00

Imagine that, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So tell us how you got into that, and that's my nine-year-old lips turned black and like jet black, and did not figure out what, and then she started having breakouts on her face, her behavior started changing, she wasn't doing well in school anymore. So, of course, I took her to the allergist, and I was like, they said nothing, like her tests were all negative, so that made me upset because I'm like, Miss Dr. Physician, you and I, but no, look at this kid, her face said she has allergies. Like, what in how can you see everything is negative? That's crazy. So I took her to dermatology,

Food Routines When Kids Overeat

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nobody could figure out what in the world was going on with her skin. So I started, I was became desperate, and I started looking online and just asking people, and I had no idea what integrated medicine was. I was a pediatrician, that's all I knew. And then I came across integrated medicine. I was like, What's that? Then I started asking questions, and then I found out about this blood test for food sensitivity. I did. Oh my gosh, my kid was highly sensitive to go to eggs, um, pineapple ash, all the things I thought. I was like, gosh, amazing mommy feeding her kids wheat bread and all the wheat they were literally taking her out on the inside, like so. I'm I'm that mommy, and I don't recommend this for everybody, but I cleared my fridge that day. I was like, okay, everybody in the house, we're all egg-free, go-to-free, dairy-free. That's don't know what else to say. It's like the whole family needs to be on this because we're eating eggs and she's sitting there, like, exactly how are we going to accomplish this? So, yeah, you know, in six weeks, her lips cleared, her face cleared, and I was like, Oh, hold on, what just happened? That's how my journey into integrated medicine started.

SPEAKER_00

That's one hell of a story.

SPEAKER_01

Kids are so many kids are deficient in magnesium, and magnesium helps with sleep, it helps nourish brain cells, it helps clean you out. And yes, you also had constipation, and I was like, How in the world is this not clearing? So, yeah, food is medicine.

SPEAKER_00

Food is medicine. That even reminds that reminds me because one of the things that the doctor told us when this was coming towards the end of uh, you know, his uh, you know, we we had just discovered, I think, that he was grief intolerant. So we took him to a doctor, and one of the things the doctor was able to discover was that he lacked vitamin D. Now, this is an interesting one because I think for years I I my brother always complains about winter. You know, our winters here are quite uh intense. I don't know what yours are like there. Yeah, but um we have lots of grey. And my my I always laugh at my brother, what's wrong with you? What do you mean you have sad? Sad is called uh seasonal affective disorder. Um, and I'd be I'd make fun of him. And then I at some point he just said, Let me get you one of these lights. They have these lights that you know it turns out we black people need a vitamin D in the West, particularly women, and that a lot of our depression doesn't necessarily come because we are feeling like we're having a bad day, it becomes because our skin is not good in this weather. I had no idea, and it's not so it's not the doctor that told me that. It was when he told me that my son lacked vitamin D. Then he went on to say, Oh, a lot of children who have autism who are black lack of vitamin D. Correct. So now we my my son takes magnesium and vitamin D every single day, every single day without fail. Yeah, and I told my brother, you know, I I'm sorry for making fun of you. You know, I still need to get you the light though, but you know, it's there's a reason why so many of us are not happy when it's very dark and gray.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yes. So, parents, definitely, and that's something I do with all my patients, baseline vitamin D. We need to see what's going on because vitamin D um affects the function of the brain. So, again, everything we all need to be thinking: what do we need to do to improve the health of the organ itself, the brain? So the brain needs the most oxygen, that's why movement is important, right? What like you've pointed out, not just any movement, intentional movement. The brain needs the most water in the body. If you don't give the brain, if you don't drink enough water, you're gonna be constipated. Your brain is not gonna function well, all connected, you're still you're not gonna sleep because this is what controls your sleep. It's not gonna be a good point, yeah. Yeah, so if we look at everything from the lens of how can we boost the health of our brains, then we start to do make better choices before you put in your mouth saying, Is my brain gonna like this food or not?

SPEAKER_00

Yes, yes, 100%.

SPEAKER_01

So yeah, wow, this has been so good. We think but please let's tell talk about the program you're you're you're starting for parents to help them train their children's senses and also work

Gut Brain Link And Medication Choices

SPEAKER_01

on like their bodies as a whole. So tell us.

SPEAKER_00

Thank you, yes, thank you so much. Um, so I'm going to I'm going to start now to because I think for quite a while I'd always wanted to create courses and you know do a lot of stuff that I'd learned about my son to help other parents. And because I'd done workshops a long time ago, I felt this that would be a natural course. But I just especially when my son seemed to get worse, it just never happened. But now I'm ready. So I'm starting off with with a free um workshop that I'm having on the 11th of December, and uh it's to help neurodivergent, you know, help understand how to help neurodivergent children to go from the tantrums to being transformed. And the keys, there are a few keys that um if a parent of a neurodivergent child understands, you know, the the the um path to recovery is a lot more I wouldn't say recovery because you never really recover. It's being like neurodivergent is who you are, right? But at least it's it helps to iron out those kinks that so many people may not you know understand is affecting their child along the way, and and what is making them more angry than you know than they should than they are. I'm even going to giving out 10 of my oh, you may not be able to see it because I think I uh you can't see it, can you?

SPEAKER_01

No, I can't. You're blurred.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, I'm blurred. Okay, that's fine.

SPEAKER_01

It's called uh I don't love the book, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

It's called Angry Angus and the Crunchy Apples. I wrote that book during lockdown, it's a reflection on my son. I wrote it in rhyme, it's quite a humorous story about a little boy who um is just always angry, and then he he has an obsession with crunchy apples. That was the autistic bit of it. So I'll be giving uh for those for the first 10 who who um who had who come to my workshop, they'll get this book. I'll send it to them.

SPEAKER_01

Oh yeah, I love it, and everybody we have the link in the chat, and oh thank you. I know for sure it's gonna be amazing, and yeah, no, because lived experience, there's nothing I mean, you can't replace that.

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01

So I'm so thankful that you finally decided that you want to share your gifts and all the last with all the parents who desperately are waiting for you.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, it's taking so long, but anyway, I'm finally here. I said thank you so much for putting me on here because it's it's almost like the moment I decided, okay, I'm gonna go for this. You just invited me on this. It was like, wow, this is crazy.

SPEAKER_01

We're doing it this week.

SPEAKER_00

And you're the one who said she wins your workshop. I was like, What? You're like six days now. I was like, Wow, you need to be a coach. Yes, I'm working on it. I've made an excellent quite a few times. Oh, you make an excellent point.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, no, so everyone, please attend the workshop is free. You get a copy of a book, which is wonderful, as also. And the best part is you get clear cut strategies on how to help your children move forward from being from having tantrums, from not sleeping well and all of that to being transformed in the sense of they can they can thrive, they can go out now, right? You can now go out with your son, and you're no longer afraid of he's going to have an angry tantrum outside of the house or all of that. And so it's free, it's it's freeing, right? We have the tools that we need. So go check out her workshop, please, everybody. My pleasure. So, do you have anyone, any last-minute um things you want to say to the parents who are listening?

SPEAKER_00

Uh, yeah, I'd say, I'd say hang in their parents. You know, you were chosen to do this job and you are doing a good job. As much as you may be in tears a lot of the time, as lot as sometimes it may be like, I can't take this anymore. Hang in there, you know. There

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you will you will have some breakthroughs as long as you don't give up. That's the way I put it. Because there were times when I just wanted to give up. I felt like you know, and so now I I I I haven't even thought about my son once during this whole time I've been sitting here. I know he's fine. I know he's not gonna be kicking the furniture or or rushing into the um kitchen and literally sweeping everything on the counter. That's how he was before, you know. So honestly, I am just yeah, I still have to pinch myself.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, wonderful. Apparently, heard it, yes. I know I thank you, thank you so much for very welcoming. It's gonna help so many parents know that there is hope. There is absolute hope, and and yes, it is possible to improve the lives of our children. So, yeah, so thank you so much, parents, for listening. And if you're looking for you need you think that your child may have autism or ADHD and you need an evaluation, we're here at Glow Pediatrics, and we can get you in within two weeks, we'll get it done so your child can get the support they need at school. And of course, after the evaluation, we also offer um integrative medicine, meaning we teach you how to go from constipated to not sleeping to picky eating to having a child who's happy and is thriving. And so, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Fantastic.

SPEAKER_01

Well done, you see you after all these years. All right, my dear, you take care, okay?